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however, bearing in mind there are deficits that have to be covered. and there are spending that has to be reached. and in that environment, there is no other alternative but for higher taxes. do you think europeans like paying 40%, 50% taxes? but the alternative is not nearly so pleasant. i've just been to iceland, high taxes, high rate of living. and an economy that is actually recovering better than anywhere else from the financial crisis. so ali velshi, do taxes have to rise? yes, in the united states. >> i think we're agreed on this. richard, always my pleasure to see from you across the pond. richard quest. let's talk about where the taxes sometimes go. infrastructure, superstorm sandy caused overwhelming devastation and exposed dangerous flaws in u.s. infrastructure. coming up next, i'll tell you how investing in infrastructure will not only help get the power back on faster after the next storm but could be the key to jobs and the boom we've all been waiting for. you are watching "your money" on cnn. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves
however, bearing in mind there are deficits that have to be covered. and there are spending that has to be reached. and in that environment, there is no other alternative but for higher taxes. do you think europeans like paying 40%, 50% taxes? but the alternative is not nearly so pleasant. i've just been to iceland, high taxes, high rate of living. and an economy that is actually recovering better than anywhere else from the financial crisis. so ali velshi, do taxes have to rise? yes, in the...
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so he said it's fantasy that there is going to need to be economic pain in reducing long term deficit i agree with him on that i'm glad he's if you're going to be on the hook and i'm glad he's out saying things like this whether to become mr real is when you become mr whalen you left office yet he was no one of them going on most wanted official. you know alan greenspan has gotten off the hook like there's one person that's walked away you know when the financial crisis happened like he got a little bit of flack but that's it you know he hasn't got and still of there are a lot of people out there that you know you could have you didn't know what industry should be or whether they were too hard too low i'm just i think there's one guy that's gotten away with more like bush did a lot with a lot i know i think that this i think i mean i think it's unfortunate that the fiscal cliff has become such a din of coverage because i think major points are lost and it's interesting one that i want to highlight that is worth noting so steve kean our guest our frequent guest was actually on the hill
so he said it's fantasy that there is going to need to be economic pain in reducing long term deficit i agree with him on that i'm glad he's if you're going to be on the hook and i'm glad he's out saying things like this whether to become mr real is when you become mr whalen you left office yet he was no one of them going on most wanted official. you know alan greenspan has gotten off the hook like there's one person that's walked away you know when the financial crisis happened like he got a...
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or ten-year deficit projections, something like 70 billion off 1.14 trillion deficit. it won't make a big dent. why is he so dedicated to it? that being said, carol, despite the fact that it sends me a little off kilter, yes, republicans lost the election. they don't have a ton of leverage. they want to try to achieve a deal that they think is going to maximize potential good for the country, meaning spending reform, budget deficit reduction, but the truth is that they don't have a ton of leverage in forcing president obama to take a look at medicare and social security to bring this conversation full circle that really mean serious budget and deficit reform. >> well, i'm sure that the majority of americans are hoping the two sides will come to some sort of deal. wouldn't that be nice? that would be a nice christmas present. will cain, thank you. >> yeah, you bet. >> thanks so much. >>> one of the top u.s. banks out with a pretty rosie prediction for next year. could it be enough to save your 401(k) from that fiscal cliff? ...so as you can see, geico's customer satisfa
or ten-year deficit projections, something like 70 billion off 1.14 trillion deficit. it won't make a big dent. why is he so dedicated to it? that being said, carol, despite the fact that it sends me a little off kilter, yes, republicans lost the election. they don't have a ton of leverage. they want to try to achieve a deal that they think is going to maximize potential good for the country, meaning spending reform, budget deficit reduction, but the truth is that they don't have a ton of...
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deficit crisis. the lock of the ability to really get a serious recovery going as long as that much there are a lot of studies showing that the higher the debt a lot of those the low should really have a growing economy kenneth rogoff and carmen reinhart came out with that salary debt overhang to yeah so i mean just that so then what do you think are the lessons from seventeen seventy five you know we're winding see what was going on and fast forward to today what can we learn from from the politics of the time and the bold moves of the dime that they can inform the u.s. that is. facing such economic problems well. barack obama. was acquainted with some of the larger dimensions of the problem of how other countries like the british and the dutch previously had gotten in this kind of trap and he was well aware that he decided to take a somewhat happy talk if you won two thousand and nine. because the democratic politicians convinced them to get on the right track with democratic economics and will sol
deficit crisis. the lock of the ability to really get a serious recovery going as long as that much there are a lot of studies showing that the higher the debt a lot of those the low should really have a growing economy kenneth rogoff and carmen reinhart came out with that salary debt overhang to yeah so i mean just that so then what do you think are the lessons from seventeen seventy five you know we're winding see what was going on and fast forward to today what can we learn from from the...
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it does not solve the deficit. it is not a serious deficit proposal. the credit rating agencies are looking for a plan that lowers the gdp to debt ratio. i do not think there is a magic number. social security, medicare, to find a sustainable path for word on them. do you think the president's plan adequately addresses the sustainability of medicare and social security? >> i think he needs to go further. i do not think it is enough. i believe the proposals are good ones. i think they are hard proposals to make because they're substantive. to achieve fiscal sustainability in the context of $3 trillion in 10-year deficit reduction, i think we need to do more. >> looking at the republican plan and the president's proposal, do you see any common ground? >> the common ground is that we're looking at the same proposals. cbo has scored a number of different approaches. i also think there is no general agreement in the context of the current discussion, we will not make any major structural changes to these programs. we will not block grant medicaid, and we wi
it does not solve the deficit. it is not a serious deficit proposal. the credit rating agencies are looking for a plan that lowers the gdp to debt ratio. i do not think there is a magic number. social security, medicare, to find a sustainable path for word on them. do you think the president's plan adequately addresses the sustainability of medicare and social security? >> i think he needs to go further. i do not think it is enough. i believe the proposals are good ones. i think they are...
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so it calls for $2.2 trillion in deficit savings, this is over the next decade. including $800 billion from tax reforms. $600 billion from medicare reforms. and $600 billion in spending cuts. but the white house quickly said, no way, because the deal doesn't contain tax hikes for the wealthiest americans. brianna keilar live from washington this morning. and brianna, are we beyond political posturing to the point where we have reached a stalemate? >> there is a lot of posturing going on and there is an impasse, obviously. at this point you have the white house saying they're not going to discuss specifics on entitlement reform with house republicans until they capitulate on increasing the income tax rates for wealthy americans. so there is an impasse but there's a lot of posturing. the offer of the white house details of which came out last week, and now this counteroffer from house republicans out yesterday. so i think the policy prescriptions here are pretty clear on what has to be done, although both sides are very far apart. if you just listen to what's going
so it calls for $2.2 trillion in deficit savings, this is over the next decade. including $800 billion from tax reforms. $600 billion from medicare reforms. and $600 billion in spending cuts. but the white house quickly said, no way, because the deal doesn't contain tax hikes for the wealthiest americans. brianna keilar live from washington this morning. and brianna, are we beyond political posturing to the point where we have reached a stalemate? >> there is a lot of posturing going on...
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it does not solve the deficit. it is not a serious deficit proposal. the credit rating agencies are looking for a plan that lowers the gdp to debt ratio. i do not think there is a magic number. social security, medicare, to find a sustainable path for word on them. do you think the president's plan adequately addresses the sustainability of medicare and social security? >> >> i think he needs to go further. i do not think it is enough. i believe the proposals are good ones. i think they are hard proposals to make because they're substantive. to achieve fiscal sustainability in the context of $3 trillion in 10-year deficit reduction, i think we need to do more. >> looking at the republican plan and the present proposal, do you see any common ground? -- and the president's proposal, do you see any common ground? >> the common ground is that we're looking at the same proposals. cbo has scored a number of different approaches. i also think there is no general agreement in the context of the current discussion, we will not make any major structural changes
it does not solve the deficit. it is not a serious deficit proposal. the credit rating agencies are looking for a plan that lowers the gdp to debt ratio. i do not think there is a magic number. social security, medicare, to find a sustainable path for word on them. do you think the president's plan adequately addresses the sustainability of medicare and social security? >> >> i think he needs to go further. i do not think it is enough. i believe the proposals are good ones. i think...
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it does not solve the deficit. it is not a serious deficit proposal. the credit rating agencies are looking for a plan that lowers the gdp to debt ratio. i do not think there is a magic number. social security, medicare, to find a sustainable path for word on them. do you think the president's plan adequately addresses the sustainability of medicare and social security? >> i think he needs to go further. i do not think it is enough. i believe the proposals are good ones. i think they are hard proposals to make because they're substantive. to achieve fiscal sustainability in the context of $3 trillion in 10-year deficit reduction, i think we need to do more. >> looking at the republican plan and the president's proposal, do you see any common ground? >> the common ground is that we're looking at the same proposals. cbo has scored a number of different approaches. i also think there is no general agreement in the context of the current discussion, we will not make any major structural changes to these programs. we will not block grant medicaid, and we wi
it does not solve the deficit. it is not a serious deficit proposal. the credit rating agencies are looking for a plan that lowers the gdp to debt ratio. i do not think there is a magic number. social security, medicare, to find a sustainable path for word on them. do you think the president's plan adequately addresses the sustainability of medicare and social security? >> i think he needs to go further. i do not think it is enough. i believe the proposals are good ones. i think they are...
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we also have a looming budget deficit. so you don't have to really be a rocket scientist to understand that the rich do have to pay more. taxes do have to be raised on the rich and i think that's why over 60% of the public in these polls are not only supportive of a tax increase on the rich, but also will blame the republicans if we go over the fiscal cliff. and this gives frankly, this gives the white house and this gives the obama administration much more bargaining leverage. >> grover norquist, here's the problem, it seems to me. again, as long as the posturing goes on with fairly ridiculous offers on both sides and lots of political rhetoric along the lines of well, they're not giving an inch, we're going backwards, you can't really go backwards from a position of complete standstill, as far as i'm concerned. as this goes on, the american economy stalls, wall street's nervous, the consumers that should be out there now buying lots of christmas presents and boosting the economy will be reticent because they'll be thinki
we also have a looming budget deficit. so you don't have to really be a rocket scientist to understand that the rich do have to pay more. taxes do have to be raised on the rich and i think that's why over 60% of the public in these polls are not only supportive of a tax increase on the rich, but also will blame the republicans if we go over the fiscal cliff. and this gives frankly, this gives the white house and this gives the obama administration much more bargaining leverage. >> grover...
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republicans lashing out at speaker boehner over his deficit reduction plan. are lawmakers really going to let us go over the cliff? and a gruesome photo sparking outrage. should "the new york post" have put up this picture of a man moments before he was crushed to death by a subway train. it with you on the cover. we're hearing from t
republicans lashing out at speaker boehner over his deficit reduction plan. are lawmakers really going to let us go over the cliff? and a gruesome photo sparking outrage. should "the new york post" have put up this picture of a man moments before he was crushed to death by a subway train. it with you on the cover. we're hearing from t
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and you're going to look back and have a bar chart of deficits and debt. and there's not going to be an asterisk that says it was the republicans' fault. i think we've got to stop playing poker, work together and understand we're working to save the country. >> that might be the long game. the asterisk in history books later. right? the short gain is raising taxes. that really is what everything is focused on right now. and i think, nan, it's fair to say that could be a big problem for republicans. all polls indicate that it's going to be the republicans that hold the bag if you end up not raises taxes on people who are perceived to be very wealthy who could afford it. >> well, there is the -- there are the atmospherics and then there are the economic realities. of course, if you look at a lot of the polling surrounding the election and post election exit polling show that, in fact, president obama was elected primarily because people felt that he was compassionate, that he cares about them. and that's an important quality. but, in fact, they endorsed the
and you're going to look back and have a bar chart of deficits and debt. and there's not going to be an asterisk that says it was the republicans' fault. i think we've got to stop playing poker, work together and understand we're working to save the country. >> that might be the long game. the asterisk in history books later. right? the short gain is raising taxes. that really is what everything is focused on right now. and i think, nan, it's fair to say that could be a big problem for...
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clearly our real dwogoal here io come up with a plan that moves us to the budget deficit and to reduce the debt. we need to deal on the revenue side, many vehicles there, to use, and we also need to deal with the expense side. i think it is crafting a solution on both of those that is going to allow us to find a solution. >> all on the table and hopefully they will work and sort of meet in the middle and find that compromise. let's -- >> actually, this is the enabler for economic development in the united states. this is absolutely important we do this. >> i want to ask you about that, in just a moment. let's talk cars. i know you are relaunching the lincoln -- >> please. >> yes, we will. the lincoln brand, making it part of the lincoln motor company, buying a super bowl ad, putting lincoln in the commercials. when you look at this new car, i have to be honest, this is not my grandfather's lincoln. >> there you go. >> this is a new lincoln. was that the point? >> absolutely. and it is just -- it is absolutely the main point because, you know, the lincoln motor company has been associat
clearly our real dwogoal here io come up with a plan that moves us to the budget deficit and to reduce the debt. we need to deal on the revenue side, many vehicles there, to use, and we also need to deal with the expense side. i think it is crafting a solution on both of those that is going to allow us to find a solution. >> all on the table and hopefully they will work and sort of meet in the middle and find that compromise. let's -- >> actually, this is the enabler for economic...
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would gold be more desirable to them as a currency versus countries like the us that run enormous trade deficits wouldn't they really benefit from staying on the out currency and to eternity and really not ever want to move away from it. look if you could trust and fear our currency there wouldn't be a problem with it but we can't trust in the our currency and we can see day to day practically why we can't trust in the our currency and the the fed will probably give us yet another reason not to trust and the currency at their next meeting the fact is be our currency is a moving target it is worth exactly what the issuer wants it to be worth no more no less they control it but if the rest of the world does not like the way it's being controlled if they don't trust the way it's being controlled well they prefer to use something else that cannot be arbitrarily devalue they cannot be arbitrarily manipulated that cannot be defaulted on you can't a fault on gold it is what it is it was created by whatever god mother nature call it whatever you want and so there's a reason why the world ended up on the
would gold be more desirable to them as a currency versus countries like the us that run enormous trade deficits wouldn't they really benefit from staying on the out currency and to eternity and really not ever want to move away from it. look if you could trust and fear our currency there wouldn't be a problem with it but we can't trust in the our currency and we can see day to day practically why we can't trust in the our currency and the the fed will probably give us yet another reason not to...
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we already have a $292 billion deficit. but in those two months, revenues have increased by 10%. $30 billion. you only get $31 billion in the first year when you raise those two rates. but you know what the problem is? we increased spending by 16%, $87 billion. this is more about a spending problem, not a taxing problem. and that's the problem with washington. >> first of all, congressman, you threw out a number there, there are a lot of numbers that can confuse people. you talk about $31 billion. the reality is, over 10 years, based on documents i have seen from republicans, raising the top rates would get you over $400 billion in new revenue. so that is a fact that both sides agree on. >> david, in two months of this new pacific northwe new fiscal year, you have $10 billion in revenue but 16% increase in spending. it is a spending problem. and the president wants to increase taxes to continue the spending. he proposed a plan that put a new spend list in that added more than just the top two rates' worth in the first year.
we already have a $292 billion deficit. but in those two months, revenues have increased by 10%. $30 billion. you only get $31 billion in the first year when you raise those two rates. but you know what the problem is? we increased spending by 16%, $87 billion. this is more about a spending problem, not a taxing problem. and that's the problem with washington. >> first of all, congressman, you threw out a number there, there are a lot of numbers that can confuse people. you talk about $31...
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the deficit that would have fallen. still bad, but remarkably better than where we find ourselves today. republicans stand ready to work with president obama for a balanced and bipartisan solution. so far, no evidence of that. let's create a long-term solution that does not burden individuals and gives businesses optimism to go forward and invest in the american economy. then the economy can grow for all citizens. i look forward to the testimony of our witnesses. >> thank you. i will introduce our two witnesses. dr. zandi is the chief economist at moody's analytics. he looks at macro racquets and public policy. he is the influential source of policymakers and businesses and journalists. recently he published a report assessing the challenges of approaching the fiscal cliff and the most effective way to achieve long-term, fiscal stability. he received his phd from the university of pennsylvania. that will be a recurring theme in these introductions. [laughter] dr. zandi, thank you for being here. dr. hassett is the direc
the deficit that would have fallen. still bad, but remarkably better than where we find ourselves today. republicans stand ready to work with president obama for a balanced and bipartisan solution. so far, no evidence of that. let's create a long-term solution that does not burden individuals and gives businesses optimism to go forward and invest in the american economy. then the economy can grow for all citizens. i look forward to the testimony of our witnesses. >> thank you. i will...
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. >> he's saying that republicans do not believe this is the right path to cutting our deficit, into promoting economic growth, boehner says. they do not want to raise tax rates. on wealthy americans or any american. i was outside a meeting that the republican leaders had with the rank and file members yesterday, speaking to member after member after they were leaving their meeting. there's often quite a break from the leadership and rank and file. they have given john boehner trouble in the past but at this point, they are giving him some lee way and they seem to be rallying around the speaker and his negotiations at this point. there's no budging on either side. >> they said there was a lot of support there. president obama said i'm sticking to my guns also. the president is warning the republicans next move will be to use the upcoming vote on the debt ceiling as leverage in the budget battle. let's listen. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation, w
. >> he's saying that republicans do not believe this is the right path to cutting our deficit, into promoting economic growth, boehner says. they do not want to raise tax rates. on wealthy americans or any american. i was outside a meeting that the republican leaders had with the rank and file members yesterday, speaking to member after member after they were leaving their meeting. there's often quite a break from the leadership and rank and file. they have given john boehner trouble in...
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we say don't reduce the deficit now this fast. that is what the fiscal cliff is all about and that's why ben bernanke cannot put the phrase. guest: as exactly right, we have two very different problems. the only reason we're talking about the second issue is politics. this is the politics of the moment tromping economic common sense which is a dangerous combination. guest: the fiscal solution is a fig leaf to allow members of congress to say we're going to spend so the spending cuts and tax increases and let the deficit be $500 billion higher. host: the debt is at $16.30 trillion and has increased $4 trillion over the last four years. the present and congress will say that over the next 10 years, we will get it back to where was in 2009, correct? guest: that is fundamentally not good enough. countries with our level of indebtedness grow more slowly and they have a higher chance of some sort of fiscal crisis. we should not mess with either one of those things. i would like to see an aggressive reform of the spending programs. let's
we say don't reduce the deficit now this fast. that is what the fiscal cliff is all about and that's why ben bernanke cannot put the phrase. guest: as exactly right, we have two very different problems. the only reason we're talking about the second issue is politics. this is the politics of the moment tromping economic common sense which is a dangerous combination. guest: the fiscal solution is a fig leaf to allow members of congress to say we're going to spend so the spending cuts and tax...
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not a driver of the deficit but, hey, cut that. one more specific. preserve the bush-era tax rates for income over $250,000. it's not a tax increase for everybody who earns over $250,000. it's only the income over $250,000 that would get additional taxes if the bush-era rates went away and the president's proposal was passed. but, no, they want to preserve -- totally preserve tax cuts for income over $250,000. they want to preserve the reduced capital gains rate and dividends rate which principally who ben pets, who else, millionaires and billionaires. now -- benefits, who else, millionaires and billionaires. they did have the jay wellington wimpy plan. you remember him? popeye. i will pay you for a hamburger today. unspecified tax loopholes. we will lower the tax rates for the people on the top. but they'll raise over $800 billion. the ability to deduct the interest on their home mortgage, do they want to take that away? probably. got to come from something pretty big. they don't want to touch the billionaire, millionaire job creator class. now, you
not a driver of the deficit but, hey, cut that. one more specific. preserve the bush-era tax rates for income over $250,000. it's not a tax increase for everybody who earns over $250,000. it's only the income over $250,000 that would get additional taxes if the bush-era rates went away and the president's proposal was passed. but, no, they want to preserve -- totally preserve tax cuts for income over $250,000. they want to preserve the reduced capital gains rate and dividends rate which...
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he has he has not met his targets he is not going to do with the deficit he said the road growth will grow and also there's going to be a huge cart made in benefits pavement to some of the poorest people in the country are going to suffer the most i was resolved to go through and there's no end to this will start in summer now i want to talk to you about that because we saw that just one percent for the benefit of the welfare bill and that's less than inflation you know that's really going to hit a huge no. support forty seven billion pounds so it will be cut from the budget but still we're talking about farmers is a really on the bread line anyway even losing twenty pounds a week is a big hit i mean it's a very cold day outside and it's a very cold prospects for britain's poor because they are going to bear the brunt of the sturdy cool spy britain's back because of all school doesn't know what he's doing thank you very much for joining us that also saved us a lot of course the concern as he said there on picking through the things at the moment but one thing cutting through all those
he has he has not met his targets he is not going to do with the deficit he said the road growth will grow and also there's going to be a huge cart made in benefits pavement to some of the poorest people in the country are going to suffer the most i was resolved to go through and there's no end to this will start in summer now i want to talk to you about that because we saw that just one percent for the benefit of the welfare bill and that's less than inflation you know that's really going to...
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it all adds up to around $4 trillion worth of deficit reduction. the plan also reforms social security to raise the retirement age and raise the maximum amount you can tax. and for the middle class it would turn mortgage into a 12% tax credit. co-author of the plan alan simpson said on cbs' "face the nation" there's no easy way out of this debt problem. >> not a single economist who talked to us in our hearings said we can't grow our way out of this thing if we had double digit growth for 20 years, you can't cut spending out of this. and you can't tax your way out of this baby. this is impossible. >> earlier today i spoke to the other co-author of the simpson-bowles plan, former white house chief of staffer, erskine bowles, co-founder of the fix the debt campaign. good morning, mr. bowles. >> good morning, chuck todd. how are you? >> i'm good. let me start with this. why aren't you for going over the fiscal cliff? i heard you yesterday saying it would be catastrophic, but let me read you estimates. we go over the cliff, we suddenly have -- we're ba
it all adds up to around $4 trillion worth of deficit reduction. the plan also reforms social security to raise the retirement age and raise the maximum amount you can tax. and for the middle class it would turn mortgage into a 12% tax credit. co-author of the plan alan simpson said on cbs' "face the nation" there's no easy way out of this debt problem. >> not a single economist who talked to us in our hearings said we can't grow our way out of this thing if we had double digit...
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it cuts $2.2 trillion from the deficit over ten years. that number also includes entitlement reforms raising the age for social security and medicare and so forth as well as $800 billion that they say they would throw into the pot in new tax revenue that would come from tax reform, from cutting tax loopholes and the like. joined now, very pleased to have with us california republican ken mccarthy, the house majority whip. congressman, welcome. good to see you this morning. >> thanks for having me. martha: so you put your number out there, you know, all kinds of response across the board this morning saying that it is, you know, equally laughable, ridiculous. there's no way that the white house is going to counter that offer. what do you think about that? >> well, i think that's sad, because think about what this president said when he campaigned. he said he wanted a balanced approach. he said he wanted 800 billion in revenue and 800 billion in revenue we provide. we also provide that balanced approach where he wanted two and a half cuts t
it cuts $2.2 trillion from the deficit over ten years. that number also includes entitlement reforms raising the age for social security and medicare and so forth as well as $800 billion that they say they would throw into the pot in new tax revenue that would come from tax reform, from cutting tax loopholes and the like. joined now, very pleased to have with us california republican ken mccarthy, the house majority whip. congressman, welcome. good to see you this morning. >> thanks for...
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the deficit's declined in the last three years and tax revenues are rising. spending has been flat for the last two and a half years so the pressure is moving in the right direction. the worry for me is if you raise taxes and cut spending now you're going to knock back growth and prevent that acceleration in revenue. you've got gdp growth up to 3 or 3.5, the revenue implications are enormous. because revenue tends to spike -- >> and nobody believes it. that's the problem. we're into this world where we may spend, and we may even have a pop from government spending. it's never sustained. and all it creates is this huge discussion which underminds business confidence of how we're going to pay for the debt. we have exposed, i think, the achilles heel of keynesian economics. >> i broadly agree with you. in 2008, 2009, i think the fiscal stimulus made a lot of sense. but i think that we're at a point now where the economy is strong enough that we need to get started on the fiscal adjustment. we've got to make sure it's not too many. i'd say something on the order
the deficit's declined in the last three years and tax revenues are rising. spending has been flat for the last two and a half years so the pressure is moving in the right direction. the worry for me is if you raise taxes and cut spending now you're going to knock back growth and prevent that acceleration in revenue. you've got gdp growth up to 3 or 3.5, the revenue implications are enormous. because revenue tends to spike -- >> and nobody believes it. that's the problem. we're into this...
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governors are concerned about the impact of deficit reduction measures on their state budgebu. the latest gop offer would overhaul the tax code, raise $800 billion in new revenue but seek $600 billion in health savings, net savings add up to about $2.2 trillion over ten years. boehner called the white house's original offer la la land and it does appear that even though at one point bowles endorsed a blueprint like this, he's trying to distance himself from it right now. >> the president got re-elected. he's claiming he got re-elected in part because he wants to tax that 2%. he cannot go back on that. in the meantime, congress most of the republicans signed the grover norquist pledge which says you cannot tax that 2% more than anybody else. you can't increase the taxes. so we're at a stalemate and someone has to give and i don't see anyone giving right now. >> bank of america today commented on the let's jump crowd. the bungee jump crowd for which they think is a scenario. >> you wonder how much of that is in negotiating position. embraced early on by senator schumer, new york
governors are concerned about the impact of deficit reduction measures on their state budgebu. the latest gop offer would overhaul the tax code, raise $800 billion in new revenue but seek $600 billion in health savings, net savings add up to about $2.2 trillion over ten years. boehner called the white house's original offer la la land and it does appear that even though at one point bowles endorsed a blueprint like this, he's trying to distance himself from it right now. >> the president...
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it doesn't solve the deficit. it's about eight days of federal spending, certainly isn't good for the economy. i think the question senator casey made this point, it isn't exactly the number, it's how we get to that new revenue. we really believe that the key is to fix this broken tax code to generate a stronger economy and the revenue that comes with it, in addition to authentic spending discipline and we need to find a bipartisan solution to save social security and medicare. i think chairman casey and i could work that out. we have a long way to go. >> senator and congressman you emphasized the importance of middle income families and supporting job creation. one thing congress has to decide is the future of the payroll tax cut which many believe has been an important support for economic growth over the last couple of years. where do the two of you stand on continuing the payroll tax cut? >> larry i introduced legislation which has two parts, one is to extend the payroll tax cut as you and others have made cle
it doesn't solve the deficit. it's about eight days of federal spending, certainly isn't good for the economy. i think the question senator casey made this point, it isn't exactly the number, it's how we get to that new revenue. we really believe that the key is to fix this broken tax code to generate a stronger economy and the revenue that comes with it, in addition to authentic spending discipline and we need to find a bipartisan solution to save social security and medicare. i think chairman...
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. >> howard dean is a deficit hawk. liberal, but he is a deficit hawk. he doesn't say maybe if we can't get a deal together, maybe we'd be okay with the fiscal cliff. he says that is the best deal for everyone, the best deal for progressives, just to do it. to go back to the clinton era rates. you get rid of three quarters of the deficit just on tax increases at that point. >> and he says you get defense cuts. >> you can't get defense cuts any other way. and he's not the only one. there's a lot of people on the left and there's quite a few people on the right. i'm glad you're optimistic and a lot of ceos and guys in your position -- if you run a company, you don't need consumers petrified and business people petrified. this is the last thing we need if you run a company. i understand you have a horse in the game. >> but you also have the double trigger. if you go over the cliff, we've got the debt ceiling fight right afterwards. it's not like that's six months down the line. that's in if first month, six weeks of the new year. >> the other thing, dependi
. >> howard dean is a deficit hawk. liberal, but he is a deficit hawk. he doesn't say maybe if we can't get a deal together, maybe we'd be okay with the fiscal cliff. he says that is the best deal for everyone, the best deal for progressives, just to do it. to go back to the clinton era rates. you get rid of three quarters of the deficit just on tax increases at that point. >> and he says you get defense cuts. >> you can't get defense cuts any other way. and he's not the only...